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  1. Justin said:

    Hey, Aris. I agree with you; I think this is an incredibly stupid move on Sony’s part. Why fire the man whose vision made them over 2 billion dollars worldwide? Why fire the man who man a good first movie and a GREAT sequel (the 3rd one was a disappointment but I blame Marvel for forcing him to stuff that story full of Venom.) I can understand if they want some fresh blood injected into the serious but why go back to high school? We’ve already SEEN that story less than 10 years ago! I don’t make anyone NEAR as much as those Sony executives most make but even I can see this is a bad move.

  2. aris said:

    I think it’s particularly frustrating to see Raimi having to walk away after more corporate meddling.

    Let the guy work – he’s making you money. And when he’s happiest (I’m making an assumption about ‘Drag Me To Hell’ here) he turns out superb product.

    I’m fascinated to see what the execs have up their sleeves.

  3. Zack Sparrow said:

    Aris, you hit the nail on the head. Really enjoyed you on the Kung Fu Panda episode.

  4. Justin said:

    I just read on slashfilm.that Marc Webb might be on Sony’s top list of potential directors. “500 Days of Summer” was com my favorite movie of last year and I think he would be a great pic; obviously, he’s no Sam Raimi, but at least they haven’t mentioned McG yet. Also, it’s too bad it’s high school Peter Parker because I think Joseph Gordon Levitt would make an EXCELLENT Spider-Man! He’s too old to play young Parker, though.

  5. Brian said:

    What is so great about the Spiderman movies? I thought they were kind of cheesy anyway. I’d much rather see Raimi do more Drag Me To Hell type projects.

  6. Aris said:

    @Justin – I still haven’t seen 500 Days – hopefully this week. JGL would be a top notch casting choice for a post-high-school Peter Parker. He keeps making it interesting.

    That’s fair @Brian. Drag Me To Hell was clearly a passion project for Raimi, and he hit it out of the park. As a comics fan I want to see guys who get comics (Raimi) make these movies instead of people who hate people/stories (Ratner). I personally like Spiderman as a hero – but I think more importantly we’re seeing a rapid decline in any sort of quality for these comics based movies.

    So it goes.

  7. Sarah C. said:

    Not too much to add. Just simply, it is my belief that the entertainment industry as a whole should lay off the Spider-Man theme. Spidy 3 was bad enough. No more, I beg, no more.

  8. Haroon Khan said:

    This is God awful.

  9. JT Brandt said:

    I consider myself a discerning filmgoer, and god damn it, I like Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man no matter what other critics say. He’s so dewy eyed and great as Peter Parker, especially in S-M 2.

    This looks like a cash-in on the success of the Christopher Nolan Batman reboot . . .

  10. JT Brandt said:

    By the way . . . Taking Peter back to high school, again?! I hate going through that same old back story.

    You can read it right there in the front of every Spider-Man comic. I don’t need to see the origins anymore. Why can’t we just continue with the plot trajectory in the Raimi films without Raimi?

    Better yet, why not cover an actual storyline from the ASM comics from the past few years?

  11. Nicholas West said:

    @JT Brandt

    I agree it’s a little early for a reboot. And I’m not interested in it at all. But we should keep in mind that Spiderman is eternally young. Like Superman he is in stasis as far as Marvel marketing is concerned. And his best stories usually come out of his High School/teenage years.

    Having said that, I’m in the camp of: Why didn’t they just let Raimi do his thing and make a good movie? Malkovich as The Vulture- fried gold baby!

  12. Ecualung said:

    Sony exec: Forget about Raimi and Maguire, in the next Spiderman film we’ll have Peter Parker back in high school.

    Underling: But sir, we can’t re-make Spiderman–it won’t have even been 10 years since the original!

    Sony exec: Silly boy, it’s not a re-MAKE, it’s a re-BOOT.

    Underling: Ooooooh- brilliant concept, sir!

  13. The D said:

    OK so this thing reboot maybe comes out by 2012, they spend one movie re esatblishing Parker and his relationships and toss in a green goblin / osbourne villian. Either way we are talking about 2015ish (sequal to the reboot) before we get a spidey movie that potentially covers new ground. Thats sad. IMO this next movie could be a total bust for Sony

  14. Aris Blevins said:

    @Justin – saw 500 Days and thought it was great. Really nice LA film – those are rarer than you’d think.

    It makes me even more baffled by Sony – if Marc Webb is an option (and he should be) how are they gonna be making a grittier, more real movie? He goes pretty out there – and clearly enjoys doing that. Good luck big S.

  15. Justin said:

    @Aris – glad you enjoyed 500 Days. I have seen some of Webbs’ music videos (Green Day, Weezer) and he definitely has an interesting visual flare, though not at all gritty. Now, my question is does a dark and gritty Spidey make sense anyway? It works for Batman, and it could work for Spider-Man, but I just can’t picture a dark & gritty Spidey set in high school.

  16. Zack Sparrow said:

    C&J,

    You guys have really dropped the ball on the blog. I thought there would be more after the show had ended…

  17. JT Brandt said:

    @ Nicholas West

    Hm. I don’t think he’s eternally young. At least not high school young, or even college young. He is pretty far past that in ASM. More like eternally somewhere in his mid-to-late 30s. I’m with The D: forget the origins and show us some new ground.

    @ Zach Sparrow

    I agree. Also, this website’s search function is awful. It’s easier to Google search for old episodes than to try to use this site to find anything. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense . . .

  18. RTP said:

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  19. Jonathan said:

    No more blog updates? :/

  20. joey debird said:

    AT LAST! Someone who thinks this idea is just as “appalling” as I do! I agree with you 100%. I can’t believe I wasted over 3 years of my life waiting for spidey 4, and Venom to continue the story, but THIS is what we get?!?!?!?!?!
    I WANT MY 3 YEARS BACK >:O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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